Day 5 – Multiple MVPs

Friday and throughout the weekend, our group continued to refine and develop more hypotheses for our problem. We reached out to a number of beneficiaries involved with EOD, route clearance, drone and radar technology development, and explosives detection.

We interviewed the following people below, helping us to flesh out our MVPs and find avenues of further research.

Beneficiary Interviews

NameHypothesisExperimentsResultsActions
CPT Anne Blank
Former Route Clearance PL
MVP 2.0 is superior to current methods (speed, detection area, cognitive overload) 
Discussing the abilities and limitations of detectors that use GPR
MVP could work but should focus more on explosive detection rather than the detection of buried objectsUpdate MVP, look into further technology that is geared toward finding explosives rather than penetrating the ground
Mr. Kelly Foster
C-IED instructor, 7th SFG
MVP 1.0 is superior to current methods (training, speed, cognitive overload)Show picture, discussion of the possibilities in MVPHe said that the MVP is a great idea, may be loud, need to focus on the goals of the project-physical detection is still superiorUpdate MVP, find better technology for MVP
MAJ David Feltner
SOP discussion, MVP 1.0/2.0 is superior to current methodsShow picture, discussion MVP is good idea, but it is limited by current technologies, what does the customer need?Look into other MVP’s, update technology, focus on user needs
Dr. Derek AndersonInformation gathering; MVP is superior to current methodsDiscussion of technology and MVPPossibly combine GPR and EMI and thermal in MVP, switch modesLook into combining various technologies into MVP
Mark Holden
FLIR 
Thermal and Spectral imaging can be used to detect and map out IEDs Discussion of current technology developed by FLIR and MVPsMVP 1 and 2 have great potential and FLIR imagers are currently able to detect minute changes in ground temps to detect changeFind how to integrate FLIR imagery with drones to ID and detect IED evidence
NameHypothesisExperimentsResultsActions
 Mr. Charlie Richter (APOPO U.S. Director)APOPO rats can be used mark IEDs as well as conventional landminesInterview, discussion about how the rats are used and if they could be applied to IED detectionBoth dogs and rats can be used for IED detection, but rats potentially have the upper hand due to cost, size, and better detection abilitiesBetter identify specific problems faced by EOD units, and interview beneficiaries with EOD experience to see if this solution set would benefit them
MSG Michael Brock








Rats could be used for more efficient route clearance and other EOD missions




Discussion of the pros and cons of animal use in explosive ordnance detection as well as a discussion of their history in the modern armyDogs have already been used to some success, however they have many issues. Rats could feasibly be applied to both route clearance as well as when EOD teams are attached to maneuver units.Interview more beneficiaries with EOD experience to see if MSG Brock’s comments are corroborated. Look into what would need to occur in order to implement them
Dr. Feodor Ivanov 
Dr. Traian Dogaru
Radar Technology
Ground penetrating radar can accurately take readings from aerial drones or be miniaturized Interview, discussion about radar tech and capabilities Radar has the capability and GPRs operate at relatively low power levels, requiring less battery usage of the overall system Reach out to other beneficiaries to see if this product, which is feasible, is practical for a platoon level unit

Minimum Viable Products

MINEHOUNDMVP 1.0MVP 2.0MVP 3.0MVP 4.0MVP 5.0
SlowFasterFaster than minehound-Speed unknown-Faster-Not faster
HeavyLighter: no physical contact with operator during useLighter: no physical contact with operator during use, possibly inflatable-Lighter; little physical contact with operator-Likely lighter than minehound, weight spread across formation
-Heavy, pounds added to operator






Training IntensiveMinimum training & skills requiredMinimum training & skills required-Minimum skills required-Minimum skill requirement-Minimum skill requirement
GPRMultispectral bands, GPR, and Multiple wavelengthsGPR, metal detection-Rat detection-GPR, EMI, change detection/thermal-EMI, thermal/change detection
Takes guns out of the fightKeeps guns in the groundKeeps guns in the ground-Guns in the fight-Guns in the fight-Guns in the fight
Single scan typeMultiple scanning and sensing technologiesMultiple scanning and sensing technologies-Single “scan” type-Multiple scanning devices=redundancy-Multiple scan types

Deployment

When we began to consider deployment for our solutions, we looked at the DOTMLPF to provide a basis for implementation. So we considered doctrinal changes, organizational and training considerations, material acquisition, leadership changes that may be required, and potentially new or alternate personnel and facilities that would be needed.

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